Intro: "With opposition to Susan Rice mounting daily, Michael Tomasky proposes six alternative nominees for the top post at Foggy Bottom. Head of the list? The winner of the 2000 election."
Former Vice President, Al Gore. (photo: Mario Anzuoni)
Secretary of State Al Gore?
29 November 12
With opposition to Susan Rice mounting daily, Michael Tomasky proposes six alternative nominees for the top post at Foggy Bottom. Head of the list? The winner of the 2000 election.
hings maybe aren't looking so great for Susan Rice. The throw-down yesterday by Maine GOP Sen. Susan Collins, who extended the Republican case against Rice back to the Clinton years, is one of those Washington smoke signals, and it's not a positive one. Let me therefore set aside for a day the question of the merits of Rice and raise another one: Who would make for some credible, interesting, outside-the-box choices to run Foggy Bottom? There are ample non-Rice options that would provide the nation with a strong chief diplomat and would piss off the wingnuts in the bargain. Here are half a dozen.
1. Al Gore. I first heard this suggestion from my friend David Greenberg, the historian who writes for Slate, and I though, nahhh. But it grew on me pretty fast. Tell me why not. He'd be great. He's known around the world. He's respected around the world, about 90 percent of which surely wishes he'd been the president instead of the guy he beat. I'm not saying he'd change the world; no one can do that. But he'd get a hearing everywhere. He knows a huge number of world leaders, and he knows the issues cold. He could dive right into the pool's deepest end, in the Middle East, on Iran, you name it.
What about his climate-change crusade, you wonder? Far from having to drop his signature issue, Gore could use his new position to push it with even greater vigor in a global context. Gore, and probably Gore alone, would be capable of elevating the climate change issue to the position it deserves on the national and global stage.
What we don't know that much about is the Gore-Obama relationship. In 2007 and 2008, Gore clearly tilted toward Obama (Gore's mere refusal to endorse Hillary Clinton over Obama indicated as much). Gore didn't endorse Obama until right after he'd secured the nomination, but the two were said to have talked regularly. That's good enough.
Finally: Man, would I love to see the Republicans try to swat down a Gore nomination. How? They'd poke around in his finances, remind America that he's now divorced. But unless there were some kind of smoking gun on the former point, no one would care. They could not really block Gore; too much stature, too obviously qualified. Can you imagine? John McCain would grind his teeth, assuming those still are his teeth, down to dust. That would be awesome to watch.
2. Jon Huntsman. A Republican reviled by the wingnuts, Huntsman has already served the anti-Christ in a diplomatic capacity, as his ambassador to China. He seems to have done an acceptable job in that posting, so why not just continue and augment the relationship? He clearly likes Obama pretty well and obviously (between the lines) was cheering for his reelection over a man he clearly dislikes.
It's hard to see Huntsman having confirmation problems. There would be a number of no votes and a lot of kvetching, but he couldn't be blocked. He might even do a good job, too. And putting him at State would clear out of Hillary's way in 2016 the GOP's leading sane candidate.
3. Richard Lugar. Yes, he's a pretty conservative Republican. But to mad-dog conservatives, he's a sell out, an Obama apologist, a treacherous Decembrist. He was defeated, as you'll recall, by a primary opponent who ran to his right, who defeated him on the basis of just such accusations. Those were absurdly exaggerated, but in fact, on a mere personal level, he was one of Obama's best buddies while Obama was in the Senate. So the president likes and presumably trusts him.
True, this one wouldn't go down so well with liberals. But hey, the president's the boss. If Lugar doesn't listen to his boss, his boss can just fire him. But I doubt Lugar would do that. He's Midwestern nice. He is rather old, though. Eighty. Travel is probably too grueling.
4. Colin Powell. Yet another Republican turncoat, Powell obviously endorsed Obama twice. And, uh, yeah, he held the job once before. Maybe this time he could tell the truth instead of make up fairy tales and undo the one black spot on his otherwise praiseworthy escutcheon.
Liberals would not like this by and large, so Powell would have to address that infamous U.N. briefing at any confirmation hearings. But all he'd have to do is find the right words with which to throw the blame back on Dick Cheney, and much (not all, but much) would be forgiven from the left. The right would go nuts.
5. Dianne Feinstein. OK, nothing about this pick would make Republicans go beserk. They kind of like her, at least on foreign-policy questions, on which she's awfully hawkish. She has been way too pro-Israel to be the honest broker in the Middle East the United States needs, but maybe that could work to her advantage-because the Israelis trust her, she could tell them things others can't and they'd listen.
6. Jim Webb. Also not a choice to anger Republicans at all, but possibly an interesting thought. Actually, maybe Webb makes more sense for the Pentagon, no? The more that I think about that, it makes all kinds of sense. Maybe the Army people wouldn't want a Navy man calling the shots, I don't know. But Webb to the Pentagon seems like a decent idea to me.
There you have it. I'm sure there are others (but no, not Bill Clinton-an ex-president holding a lower office is just a little too odd). Unsupportable as these attacks on Rice are, they may reach a point (and maybe very soon) where the president has to conclude that he's going to spend his political capital elsewhere. I'm not yet saying he should or shouldn't conclude that. But if he does, he has other places to turn.
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"Lost"?????
Think again. Can you say "Ken Blackwell"?
And it is so true.
So?
It seems to me that's their loss, not ours.
Unfortunate as it may sound, our nation's first elected 'president of color' was likely only reelected because of his handlers effective use of 'wedge issues,' irrelevant to the nation's governance.
Forget the artificial 'fiscal cliff' stuff--Congress could repeal its disastrous automatic effects tomorrow--just like they enacted them.
This democrat is much more worried about White House abuse of war powers.
Barack Obama chose W. Bush's banker bailouts over FDR's Glass-Steagall firewall--when he had the support to do either.
And you still support his treachery BECAUSE...?
Bill has served his country. Give him a break.
Additionally, I hope this author wrote this with tongue planted firmly in cheek:
Colin Powell? "Maybe this time he could tell the truth instead of make up fairy tales..." Sorry, he lost my trust when he lied to get this country into an illegal, unnecessary war.
Jon Huntsman? "He might even do a good job, too." Then by all means -- nominate this guy! Who cares what sort of Secretary of State he would make, just as long as it pisses off the Republicans.
Please... someone please tell me this Michael Tomasky fellow is just having a good time, spouting "beer talk."
Yeah, but Powell was the guy in charge of covering up the My Lai massacre and was quite overrated as both a General and as a diplomat. Just the opposite of Clark whose service was exemplary and carried out as a statesman.
Susan Rice aka Dick Cheney-in-a-dre ss is a bridge too far.
'Endless war' in the name of 'democracy?'
No Thanks.
If that agenda were appropriate Pres. McCain would be entering his second term.
Chuck Hagel belongs in prison for election fraud when the voting machines his company owned turned his 30 points down in the polls into victory.
He'd never get the post, but he could raise enough dough from folks who love him to go back to Congress where they need a real ethical and spiritual exemplar to make them feel like the moral slackers they are.
AND THEN--FOR PRESIDENT.
Much better idea!
Kucinich is a fantastic guy, but I can't see him as S of S.
So which military experienced individual could put an end to that?
It would appear that Eagle has already forgotten 9-11, on the Rep's watch. Not to mention a dozen embasy/consulat e attacks during the eight years of "W". That is more than any other President in history and resulted in over 60 deaths, but they weren't all Americans, so they probably don't count in R-land.
Not to reiterate what others have already mentioned, but aren't you forgetting the 4,000 who died on 9/11/2001 IN AMERICA while bush jr. intentionally did nothing to stop it?
Oops, you rightists have already forgotten that this isn't fox news. Here in reality-land facts matter.
Oops!
He's our best man!
Boy, now THERE's a comedy of opposites!
I'm a conservative who is a bit narrow-minded, but I would love to see former House of Rep. Patricia Schroeder as Sec. of State. She has it !
and only 72 yrs. old.
It sounds a bit like the old Fox news strategy of questioning the "manhood" of anyone who disagrees with the repug party. You wouldn't be attempting to do that would you?
The only weakness Gore has shown was his refusal to challenge the election outcome and he probably did so for the same reason Nixon did, to spare the nation the disruption.
(Yes, I know later events Nixon was involved in make that ironic, but he didn't think anyone would know about Watergate before it came out. After that it was the paranoia of a treed fox in defense mode)
If Merkley-Warren prevail in the filibuster rule pissing match, they'll just nominate and approve Rice. No big deal.
I think it's a misunderstandin g. I did a double-take (stupid English language!). Your comment could have been read to mean the exact opposite of what I think you really did say.
It's not your fault.
He was saying Gore would cause that, lowering our oil supply but causing more pollution. One of the stupidest assertions I've ever heard in my entire life.
"SoS Gore's first act could be to kill the Keystone XL Pipeline, which (meaning the pipeline - and NOT Gore's decision) will NOT help our oil supply, but WILL pollute the atmosphere worse than it already is."
The same words with a slight alteration could be a bit more clear:
So Gore's first act could be to kill the Keystone XL Pipeline, since the pipeline will NOT help our oil supply, but WILL pollute the atmosphere worse than it already is.
It would have no effect on our oil supply as it is already committed to China. It very well might destroy the Oglalla water table which suplies almost all the upper midwest water. Tar sands oil is incredibly corrosive and always leaks in short order. If you are for Keystone XL, you are a moron!
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How about Susan Rice?!
The next few days should tell us a lot about Pres. Obama.
Unless you like Dick Cheney's neo-con doctrine of 'endless war.'
And just prefer that a Democratic president take the fall.
Ms Rice is one of the few Cheney Democrats left.
Susan Rice is a Cheney-kind of Democrat--who likes 'endless' wars just so long as those wars appear to be about 'human rights.'
Has Amb. Rice started a war with nuclear-armed Russia yet?
And what is this subtle endorsement of Hillary Clinton?
>>It's hard to see Huntsman having confirmation problems. There would be a number of no votes and a lot of kvetching, but he couldn't be blocked. He might even do a good job, too. And putting him at State would clear out of Hillary's way in 2016 the GOP's leading sane candidate.
The patron of Wall Street's Joe Lieberman?
Do you want to start World War 4??
That arbitrary, artificial 'fiscal cliff' they keep babbling about could be repealed.
It only exists because Wall Street begged Washington to enact it. And Wall Street often does not have the nation's best interests at heart.
For some reason, President Obama is in Wall Streets's corner on this important matter.
n the subject of Bill Clinton serving as Secretary of State that John Quincy Adams died at his desk in the House of REpresentatives after his time as president and William Howard Taft was appointed to Chief Justice after his one term.
That being said, Gore would be great.
1. Susan Rice
2. Al Gore
3. Bill Richardson
Secretary of Defense:
1. Gary Hart
The problem is not the Sec'y of State.
It is the president.
And it is no secret that Barry Obama owes a lot to Wall Street.
Let the Ambassador live off her investments.
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